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The Tongue

A Short Trip To Seoul

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Yes in Wales presently, saw Gazza last night in Cardiff. Out with my mate Andy today and visiting rels in Merthyr Tydfil tomorrow, back near a PC next week. Cheers guys

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Yes in Wales presently, saw Gazza last night in Cardiff. Out with my mate Andy today and visiting rels in Merthyr Tydfil tomorrow, back near a PC next week. Cheers guys

hope you washed your hands thouroghly .

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hope you washed your hands thouroghly .

Had a great night in Cardiff. Maybe not your friend mate but he is mine.

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Had a great night in Cardiff. Maybe not your friend mate but he is mine.

that's right mate , I don't do two faced cunts .

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that's right mate , I don't do two faced fannys .

Can we stop this tf now, uncalled for comment on my thread, start your own lol.

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Can we stop this tf now, uncalled for comment on my thread, start your own lol.

you started it mate . it was you that mentioned the tosser . lol.

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you started it mate . it was you that mentioned the tosser . lol.

I was giving reasons why I hadn't updated my trip report in line with the thread.

Your comment wasn't necessary and took the thread in a different unsavoury direction.

I wont comment anymore on this thread and honestly Alex you are not making me feel interested about updating the topic further

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I was giving reasons why I hadn't updated my trip report in line with the thread.

Your comment wasn't necessary and took the thread in a different unsavoury direction.

I wont comment anymore on this thread and honestly Alex you are not making me feel interested about updating the topic further

 

david I don't have time to play games mate . you either want to post or you don't .

you either want to be friends or you don't .

you mix with a tosser so its ok to say hes a tosser .

perhaps not the place for this conversation but it still needs said .

just don't mention the tosser on this forum and then there will be no need for me to make any reply regarding him .

seems a fair compromise to me .

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david I don't have time to play games mate . you either want to post or you don't .

you either want to be friends or you don't .

you mix with a tosser so its ok to say hes a tosser .

perhaps not the place for this conversation but it still needs said .

just don't mention the tosser on this forum and then there will be no need for me to make any reply regarding him .

seems a fair compromise to me .

Not the way I deal with things in public, maybe your way but there was no need for you to say what you said on this thread which is a trip report not a characterisation of a friend of mine. There are many people on this forum who dont see eye to eye but they get on by ignoring each other, you just didn't need to comment.

if people did make disrespectful comments everytime we saw a name of a person we dont get on with then many threads would become screwed and maybe end up with sutuations like recently when members were removed. Your view has always been to ignore others who piss you off, that would have been a choice action on my thread.

And yes whether I post or not post is up to me but that is always based on how comfortable I feel about my involvement and whether the effort is of value to me and others.

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Not the way I deal with things in public, maybe your way but there was no need for you to say what you said on this thread which is a trip report not a characterisation of a friend of mine. There are many people on this forum who dont see eye to eye but they get on by ignoring each other, you just didn't need to comment. if people did make disrespectful comments everytime we saw a name of a person we dont get on with then many threads would become screwed and maybe end up with sutuations like recently when members were removed. Your view has always been to ignore others who piss you off, that would have been a choice action on my thread. And yes whether I post or not post is up to me but that is always based on how comfortable I feel about my involvement and whether the effort is of value to me and others.

that's your decision but the person in vogue is persona non gratis on this forum .

he can of course be a man and apologise and put it right any time he wishes .

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Dave, how do prices in Korea compare to Bangkok and Pattaya?

If you mean women I dont know but everyday things are similar. Did have an Egg Mcmuffin which was same price, draft beer a little bit more expensive but available, street food is cheap. Plenty of sales for cheap but good quality clothes. Trains and buses very cheap but taxis a little bit more expensive, a trip to the airport (45 mins) can be up to 70000 won, about 70 US (45 quid).

My trip to the DMZ was 77000 Won which was for the whole day including a traditional lunch.

For beer, burgers and European fayre head for Itaewon, I was told by the manager of Dillingers there are around 80 expat drinking establishments all within walking distance of the station (Itaewon). The pubs are very much the Singapore/Hongkong style with many expats although without the Philippine girls throwing themselves at you (sadly)

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If you mean women I dont know but everyday things are similar. Did have an Egg Mcmuffin which was same price, draft beer a little bit more expensive but available, street food is cheap. Plenty of sales for cheap but good quality clothes. Trains and buses very cheap but taxis a little bit more expensive, a trip to the airport (45 mins) can be up to 70000 won, about 70 US (45 quid).

My trip to the DMZ was 77000 Won which was for the whole day including a traditional lunch.

For beer, burgers and European fayre head for Itaewon, I was told by the manager of Dillingers there are around 80 expat drinking establishments all within walking distance of the station (Itaewon). The pubs are very much the Singapore/Hongkong style with many expats although without the Philippine girls throwing themselves at you (sadly)

All sounds good. Should be here in June, fingers crossed.

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Finally updating my pics from my trip to Seoul in February (sorry Chris); delays mainly because of a little nipper deciding to come early plus a few other side issues but hopefully you will get an idea of what a trip to Seoul will entail. Please be aware that this pictorial is really only of interest to those who wish to go to the Korean War Museum and the DMZ. I did a few pubs in Seoul and for those interested you could use this link (I did) and you will get an idea - http://www.mydestination.com/seoul/nightlife/29295-56451/itaewon.

The trendy areas are not covered in this report but as a starter try this link (I won't be covering any of that link as I never stepped foot that area). http://thehungrypartier.com/ultimate-guide-to-clubbing-gangnam-style/

First photos are from the Korean War Memorial Museum (https://www.warmemo.or.kr/newwm/eng/main.jsp)

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More to follow

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The trip to the DMZ is divided into 3 tours. To gauge which one you would do then look at this link which is the one I used to book my tour - http://www.dmztours.com/seoul_dmz_tours.htm.

Last year I did Tour 1 which is very interesting and includes the 'Infiltration Tunnel' which does need you to be pretty fit as it is quite a steep trip down and quite long (about 1500 metres I believe), the way back is the tough part as the incline this way is steep. Just to give an idea of what to expect (a hard hat is needed and a strong back for stooping low) see the video below

https://www.youtube.com/watch?&v=TxZE8RYOlk

Anyhow this trip I did Tour 2 which is the Panmunjeom Tour (JSA tour). Tour 3 is just a combination of Tours 1 and 2.

Tour 2 is 87000 Won but if you arrive at the Lotte Hotel meeting point (6th floor office) then you should get it for 77000 Won.

The tour bus takes you to Fort Bonifas where you transfer to a military coach with military escort, it is also where you sign your life away in the case that hostilities break out (then you are probably on your own). I will highlight the JSA building photos where the demarcation line is. The first photos are at the fence and tourist centre which is 2 kms from the demarcation line.

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Pics of the JSA to follow

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The tour bus takes us to Camp Bonifas where we transfer to a military bus, no photos are allowed when on the bus and a military escort keeps his beady eye on you, trust me his eyes are sharp and anybody even thinking of taking a sly photo needs to think again, these guys are serious.

We are transported to the Freedom House which is on the South Korean side of the demarcation line (the absolute border). Pictures taken across passed the blue buildings are of the North Korean Peace Pavilion.

You are given a briefing in the Freedom House theatre before being escorted in a 2 by 2 line to the JSA (Joint Security Area) buildings. Inside the building are South Korean soldiers, this building straddles the demarcation line and some of the photos I took were when I was officially in North Korea (one out of the window at the concrete line running up to the blue building - pic 3).

The table below is sat across the demarcation line, to the right is North Korea, to the left is south Korea.

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On the bus on the way back to Camp Bonifas we were allowed to take photos of the 'Bridge of No return' http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bridge_of_No_Return

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To sign my life away

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Dave, im going to re-read this whole thread, and then i'll get back to you.

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Cracking photos Dave, and they look even better when you can view them on a laptop rather than a mobile.

You have given me a good feel for my trip now and cant wait, just 6 more weeks to go.

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Cracking photos Dave, and they look even better when you can view them on a laptop rather than a mobile.

You have given me a good feel for my trip now and cant wait, just 6 more weeks to go.

Just a quick reminder, Tour 2 must be booked at least 48 hours prior to your chosen date so as to allow passport checks. Your passport must be on you at all times, without it you will not be allowed in at Camp Bonifas.

For the full 87000 Won they will pick you up at your hotel. I walked to the Lotte hotel to join the tour.

With the weather much warmer for your trip I expect you may get to see more N. Korean soldiers.

Finally, not sure I have mentioned this or not but if you do buy N.Korean wine it is best to leave it in the bottle, it tastes like shite sherry and might be best kept as a talking point only.

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Just a quick reminder, Tour 2 must be booked at least 48 hours prior to your chosen date so as to allow passport checks. Your passport must be on you at all times, without it you will not be allowed in at Camp Bonifas.

For the full 87000 Won they will pick you up at your hotel. I walked to the Lotte hotel to join the tour.

With the weather much warmer for your trip I expect you may get to see more N. Korean soldiers.

Finally, not sure I have mentioned this or not but if you do buy N.Korean wine it is best to leave it in the bottle, it tastes like shite sherry and might be best kept as a talking point only.

I've gone the whole hog and booked tour #3, i want to see it all.

Just sent them an email earlier this evening on their website, so hope to hear back soon, but they didnt ask for any passport info though!

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I've gone the whole hog and booked tour #3, i want to see it all.

Just sent them an email earlier this evening on their website, so hope to hear back soon, but they didnt ask for any passport info though!

Bit odd, I had to send them a scanned copy of my id page. Maybe once they confirm your tour they will ask for the passport details. It is to pass the info on ahead to Camp Bonifas as they require a list of participants. Many nationalities are not allowed on the tour.

Your choice is a good one.

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