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CampariO

foreign national residence notification form (TM. 30)

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Immigration is tightening the screws again.

You might know that the landlord needs to register a foreigner within 7 days of arrival (or on the same day if it is not a weekend according to Jomtien immigration, but this could depent on the office or officer.) If the foreigner is staying in a hotel, the hotel is doing this.

If the foreigner is staying in an apartment or house, the landlord has to go to the immigration, fill out the TM30 form and hand it in together with a copy of the tambien baan, his ID card and copy of the foreigners passport, visa, TM card and rental contract if applicable).

Can cost him 1600 Baht if the landlord fails to do so and you may not want to get your landlord upset, so better talk to him.

What many don't know:

The registration has to be done again if the foreigner has been travelling to another country and returns.

(It is not required to file a TM30 after the foreigner is doing a trip upcountry and comes back)

This was hardly checked or requested, but things are changing and since this year the immigration is looking more closely.

A friend of a friend wanted to extend his visa on basis of marriage, he and his GF thought the company he was working for had registered him together with the WP. When they went to the immigration his GF had to pay 1600 fine and was told to spread the word. Further she was informed that the fee would be 4000 Bt if it was a foreigner who didn't register. Now I don't know whether the TM30 needs to be filed for those who own a condo and you are doing the 90 reporting, but you better check.

There is a long thread about this on Thai visa in the Chiangmai forum, do a search for "TM 30"

 

So if your landlord failed to register you, there are 2 options:

-You could wait for until you return from a trip abroad and then tell the landlord to do the registration

-You tell the landlord to do the registration as soon as possible and if the officer asks him why he hasn't registered you earlier, he could make up some excuses, such as "he just moved in" but beware that if you did some paperwork with the immigration and used the address, they might find out about it and getting pissed off.

Edited by CampariO

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Thanks , I was in there today getting a proof of residency, in and out very quick.

 

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Well, usually they don't catch you but the landlord. If you need some papers from immigration and don't have any utility bills or whatever they are asking for proof of address, then I believe the only option is to get your landlord to register you and if the officer has enough time to check all dates (entry stamp, etc.) and checks the PC than the $ sign can light up in their faces.

 

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More and more freedom of movement.....

The hotel registration thing existed in France but was abolished about 40 years ago....  Shows how much "updated" LOS is.....

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47 minutes ago, thai spice said:

More and more freedom of movement.....

The hotel registration thing existed in France but was abolished about 40 years ago....  Shows how much "updated" LOS is.....

With terrorism what's the issue with hotels having to inform, look at recent attacks in France ...Los is way ahead of western countries as regards immigration , there can't be a western country who would not wish they could have the same.

No benefit fraud, health tourism etc etc 

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4 hours ago, Parky said:

With terrorism what's the issue with hotels having to inform, look at recent attacks in France ...Los is way ahead of western countries as regards immigration , there can't be a western country who would not wish they could have the same.

No benefit fraud, health tourism etc etc 

Ever heard about freedom of expression ?

 

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3 hours ago, thai spice said:

Ever heard about freedom of expression ?

 

Didn't know terrorism was accepted by some as 'freedom of expression'.

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3 minutes ago, The Tongue said:

Didn't know terrorism was accepted by some as 'freedom of expression'.

Nowadays terrorist are usually educated in the country, have the local ID, fake passport, etc.....  Counting on some shitty hotel reporting every day to the police is dreaming....

Remember the 9/11 guys taking piloting lessons, and living undercover in the US.....

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5 minutes ago, thai spice said:

Nowadays terrorist are usually educated in the country, have the local ID, fake passport, etc.....  Counting on some shitty hotel reporting every day to the police is dreaming....

Remember the 9/11 guys taking piloting lessons, and living undercover in the US.....

I think the main issue here is not necessarily the hotel reporting but guys (possible terrorists) staying at private accommodation and leaving/entering the country. I believe that a lot of the suspects in recent bombings were staying in private residences and not in hotels where reporting does take place.

I have always been asked for my passport when staying in a hotel but when renting accommodation I only ever showed my passport the day I entered into a rental agreement. My landlady has registered me as living at the address but I have been flying in out nearly every 3 months over the last 3 years so interesting to see this update.

Officially when I stay at the family house in Khon Kaen I should be registered with the police by Porn's family. Never have told anyone.

 

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4 hours ago, Buckfast said:

Paris hotels

 

Sadly over the years the French have had no balls ?

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I am out of here, this is ABSOLUTELY DISGUSTING AND STUPID.

Sorry for the good guys I met.

 

 

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6 hours ago, thai spice said:

I am out of here, this is ABSOLUTELY DISGUSTING AND STUPID.

Ahhhh, you've met PL's welcoming committee..Dumb and dumber. :laugh: Maybe they can help Trump build that wall. :laugh: At this rate there will be 5 members posting here and drinking in the RH :laugh: Now that's what I call "community". lol  

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1 hour ago, mrgreenjeans said:

Ahhhh, you've met PL's welcoming committee..Dumb and dumber. :laugh: Maybe they can help Trump build that wall. :laugh: At this rate there will be 5 members posting here and drinking in the RH :laugh: Now that's what I call "community". lol  

I can't  see Gabor posting with the groundless rude allegations you wrote yesterday, the invisible basement bashed supporting the Rockhouse...555555

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On 11/8/2016 at 8:23 PM, CampariO said:

Well, usually they don't catch you but the landlord. If you need some papers from immigration and don't have any utility bills or whatever they are asking for proof of address, then I believe the only option is to get your landlord to register you and if the officer has enough time to check all dates (entry stamp, etc.) and checks the PC than the $ sign can light up in their faces.

 

I know my landlord has not registered me (he went home to Aus the same day we signed my lease) but I need nothing from immigration except a stamp and signature in my passport every 2 years. I guess nothing will come from it.

But then I do report my address every 90 days (so immi does know I live here) but my reporting is done in BKK not Jomtien.

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