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  1. Under 300 Baht ... And Good!

    For those of you who like big burgers and especially Australian-style burgers with beetroot, fried egg and grilled pineapple, Kilkenny's has added to its menu the Ozzie Works burger. Kilkenny does a good job with farang comfort food and its daily specials are great value for money. From Kilkenny's FB page: I had the Ozzie burger at Kilkenny on Australia Day as I continue to meander along Coronary Lane. That was quite an impressive burger for 185 baht including fries. It consisted of a thick beef patty topped with cheese, fried onions, side bacon, fried egg and a slice of grilled pineapple. The beef patty rested on a layer of pickled beets, a couple of slices of tomato and a lettuce leaf. A toasted bun held this hefty concoction together. The fried egg had been splashed with HP Sauce, but there wasn't any other dressing on the burger.a The cook sure didn't skimp on any of the ingredients; there was a lot of beef, cheese, bacon and beetroot, making it a very filling meal. I'm not a fan of pineapple on burgers, so I pushed the slice aside and had it as a mini-dessert when I had finished the rest. There are a lot of theories about how beetroot, fried egg and grilled pineapple came to be added to hamburgers, One popular version claims it was a prank played on U.S. servicemen in Australia during both WW II and the Viet Nam War. There may be some truth in that story, but Australian food historians say beetroot, a very popular vegetable in Australia, had been added to hamburgers since the 1930s, a decade before the arrival of U.S. troops. The most likely explanation may be that it was a combination of toppings that caught on with the Australia public. When I tried it, the Ozzy burger had been a one-day special at the Kilkenny in honor of Australia Day. I liked it because it tasted fine and I enjoy trying burgers that are different from the ones you'd get at a truck stop in Norman, Oklahoma or Frog Leap, Tennessee. Maybe I'll have another Ozzy Burger next year on Jan. 28. Evil
  2. This is a list of Trip Advisor's top 59 restaurants out of 944 in Pattaya as of Jan. 28, 2017. It was supposed to be a list of 60, but Mai Thai Cuisine at #9 fell by the wayside while I was formatting the list. My apologies to Mai Thai. You can find the T A ranking's for Pattaya here, However, T A continuously updates its rankings, so what you read today may differ from the lists below. And the top 10 in more detail: These 60 restaurants were placed highest by Trip Advisor's algorithm for ranking restaurants based on reviews by anonymous posters. It is NOT by any stretch of the imagination a list of the best restaurants in Pattaya as it doesn't feature objective standards for quality. Even if such standards could be established, it would be impossible to apply them to anonymous reviews. Basically, the list is a mishmash of the most popular Pattaya restaurants according to Trip Advisor's set of rules for calculating rankings. It's a very flawed approach that is wide open to manipulation. Just consider the recent case of the fake restaurant listed as #1 in London: How An Entirely Fake Restaurant Became London's Hottest Reservation. But even if the ranking algorithm were perfectly fair, there's still an inherent contradiction which can't be overcome. How do you compare a fine dining restaurant to a casual budget restaurant? Or a pizzeria to a seafood restaurant? Or a classic French restaurant to an Indian or Tex Mex restaurant and say which is better? It's impossible. That said, there's no denying T A is hugely influential and contains some excellent reviews and tips on restaurants. It's a matter of using it carefully and sorting the fake reviews from the genuine. Keep in mind, too, that restaurant reviews are always subjective and reflect personal preferences. Diners have different priorities when it comes to restaurant meals. Some are most concerned with portion size and price; if they get a lot of food for a little money, they are happy. Others are focused on the quality of the food and the total dining experience, which goes beyond the food on the plate. A few things jump out regarding the list of the top restaurants. It's not surprising to find places like Cafe des Amis, Bruno's, Livv, Moonlight, Horizon and Casa Pascal among the top 10; fine dining restaurants always do well in ranking lists. It's surprising, though, that Five Star J comes in at #3 and absolutely mind-boggling Caravan, a Russian-Uzbek (!!!) restaurant, would place third. Surprising and mind-bogging, that is, until you take into account how T A compiles its rankings. Both Five Star J and Caravan appeal to limited groups of customers- Five Star to vegans and vegetarians; Caravan to Russian and Chinese tourists. Within those groups there's more uniformity of opinion about the restaurant's food, so it gets a high number of positive ratings. Those who don't like vegetarian or Russian food aren't likely to eat there at all and it therefore doesn't get a lot of low ratings. It's a bit more complicated that that, but without going into a lot of detail, it's safe to say the high rankings of Five Star J and Caravan are largely quirks of the T A system. I also found it surprising that Hooters ranked in 32nd place, one notch above Pattaya Beer Garden. Considering how much hatred is expressed on the punter boards over Hooters, I'm astounded it's done so well in the T A reviews. A comment in of one of those reviews made me chuckle: "The biggest Hooters I've ever seen." I found it strange that very popular Thai seafood restaurants like Mum Aroi and Pupen didn't make the top 60, nor did popular Thai chains like MK. But that may simply be due to Thais not writing reviews on T A. Over the years, I've eaten in about 40 of the 60 restaurants. Anyway, what restaurants do you feel shouldn't be in the top 60 and which are glaring by their omission? Remember, the list is about popularity, not quality. Evil
  3. Under 300 Baht ... And Good!

    MC Burger on Soi Bukhao is a recent entry in Pattaya's crowded field of hamburger restaurants. It's located roughly halfway between Pattaya Tai and LK Metro, about 50 meters south of, and on the same side of the road, as the ill-named Action Street. It's a small single-shop restaurant without a large external sign, so it's easy to miss if you're riding the baht bus. It has three tables for four inside and one table outside, plus a low table flanked by sofas. The walls are decorated with rather garnish graffiti-style paintings. But what the hell. This is a hamburger joint in Pattaya, so garnish isn't really out of place. This is the menu that has been posted on MC Burger's Web site, along with a photo of one of the items, the Frisco Melt. It's a small and straight-forward menu, featuring hamburger variations and curly or French fries. There are a few non-burger sandwiches listed on the menu inside the restaurant as well as chicken tenders and wings. MC Club also has a "build-your-own-burger" option. All the burgers are 200 baht and include a small basket of fries. I went with the Frisco Melt last night and wasn't disappointed. It's a decent recreation of the iconic Frisco Melt, the signature burger of the U.S. Steak n Shake chain. The MC Burger variation consisted of two beef patties, two slices of cheese, bacon and Frisco Sauce on toasted sourdough bread. Frisco Sauce, at least in the U.S., is a combination of Thousand Island and French dressings, plus ketchup. It's not a favorite of mine as it has a sweetness I don't think goes well with a burger, but many say that's what gives the Frisco Melt it's distinctive flavor. The fries appeared to be hand cut and were cooked as they should be, crispy on the outside, fluffy on the outside. They were lightly dusted with a seasoning I couldn't identify, maybe a paprika blend? The Frisco Melt I got on my plate was very close to the picture on the Web site. It was good, but next time I'll ask them to skip the Frisco Sauce. Earlier this week I had the Six Days BBQ Burger. It was a single patty of beef topped with a slice of cheddar cheese, pulled pork, coleslaw and BBQ sauce on a toasted bun. The curly fries were excellent, even crispier than the straight-cut fries I got with the Frisco Melt. I'm a big fan of crispy fries! The burger was OK, but not as good as the Frisco Melt. It was a bit "busy," too many flavors and the coleslaw had a sweetness I didn't like. I think it would have been better with the coleslaw and maybe even the cheese to allow the pulled pork to stand out, but that's just my preference. Bottom line: I'll be back to try some of the other MC Club variations, although I'm sure the Frisco Melt will remain my favorite. Pattaya probably has more burger outlets per square kilometer than New York City. The burgers in Pattaya range from luxury wagyu burgers through the standardized transnational chain burgers and down to budget variations at 150 baht or less. The standard burger with lettuce, tomato and onion I find boring and never order it. If I'm going to eat unhealthy food, I want it to be honestly unhealthy. Lettuce and tomato on the side (maybe), but not on the burger, thank you. MC Burger has added a bit of originality to the Pattya burger avalanche and I appreciate that. It's possible that the young guys who run MC Burger may want to adjust some of their recipes in the future as creativity shouldn't overpower flavor, but they are definitely trying. Some other observations: Bottled beer is 75 baht; water 20 baht and soft drinks 30 bat. Cocktails and shots are available. Service was fast and friendly, with everything cooked to order in an open kitchen space. The first night I was there, the place was full, four diners at all the tables except mine. The second night I was the only customer, but it was late, about 11.00 p.m. MC Burger is open from noon to midnight. Evil
  4. Under 300 Baht ... And Good!

    Tonight I had the Sunday roast lamb at Kilkenny. Delicious and great value for money at the price (199 baht). It appears to be very popular as well. I ate at Kilkenny between 6.00 and 7.00 p.m. and at least 15 other customers were also having the lamb special. I got a generous portion of lamb (imported from Australia, according to the Kilkenny web site); a large roast potato; mashed potatoes; Yorkshire pudding; and the Kilkenny trio of vegetables, broccoli, cauliflower and carrots. Top marks on the lamb, tender and tasty. The mashed potatoes and veggies were also a big I was less impressed with the roast potato. It was fluffy on the inside, but didn't have a crispy outer layer. It seemed more like a skinless baked potato. I don't think it had been coated in oil prior to roasting. It's probably a lot less calories and healthier that way, but it didn't have the texture and taste I associate with roast potato. The Yorkshire pudding was better than most you get in Pattaya. It could have been a bit lighter, but that's hard to achieve if it isn't served straight from the oven, which is difficult for any restaurant. I also wish the gravy hadn't been poured over the lamb, although that's a personal preference of mine and most likely isn't shared by most of the other diners at Kilkenny. There was a lot of food on the plate and I couldn't finish all of it. Just by glancing around, I didn't see anyone who had cleaned his plate and some of those gentlemen didn't look to be light eaters. Bottom line: Kilkenny is an excellent option for a Sunday roast lamb dinner. I can't recall having had a better one in Pattaya at that price. Evil
  5. Under 300 Baht ... And Good!

    Last night I had the pork chop special for 169 baht at Kilkenny Bar & Guesthouse on LK Metro. For the price, it was a good meal. It came with mashed potatoes, gravy and vegetables. It was a substantial chop, not thick but large. The portions of mash and veggies were larger than you usually get in Pattaya restaurants. My bottle of SML cost 60 baht, so I got a very filling meal for 229 baht. The pork chop had been fried nicely. The vegetables (cauliflower, broccoli and carrots) hadn't been boiled too long and tasted quite fresh. The mash was excellent and the cook hadn't skimped on the butter, that's for sure. The gravy was the weakest link; not much flavor and too salty. Thankfully it came on the side in a gravy boat and not on the plate. I left the gravy alone and tucked into the rest with an occasional thought to Kenny McCormick and South Park. I ate at Kilkenny around 10 p.m. and it was busy. About 80% of the seats were taken inside and out. Bottom line: I won't hesitate to try another special at Kilkenny. The rest of the menu wasn't particularly inspiring, the usual collection of pub food and Thai standard dishes.
  6. Firepork Thailand at The Avenue on 2nd Road

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  7. Firepork Thailand at The Avenue on 2nd Road

    The piece of pork belly had been grilled in the kitchen and arrived at the table ready to be finished along with the raw vegetables. It was a substantial chunk, more calories than should be consumed at one sitting. The waitress used kitchen sheers to cut the pork into bite-sized pieces, which were then grilled together with the vegetables. In Korea, grilled pork belly is traditionally eaten as part of a bite-sized wrap. The meat is dipped in the sauce or condiment, then place at the center of a lettuce leaf. Some slices of garlic or chili pepper can be added. The lettuce leaf is then folded into a small package and popped into the mouth. I didn't much bother with the lettuce, just ate the pork after dipping. Bottom line: Good grilled pork belly, but too much fatty content and too many calories for one person. That dish should be split among two or more diners. I won't order it again as a solo diner. And if Firepork doesn't add more variety to its menu, there won't be any point in going back. My meal cost 395 baht for the grilled pork and accompaniments, plus 40 baht for the Coke Zero. To that 435 baht had been added 7% VAT (31 baht) but no service charge. I left 20 baht of the change from my 500-baht note on the tray and gave the girl who did the "grilling" 40 baht in her hand. Evil
  8. Firepork Thailand is a new Korean barbecue restaurant under the Robin Hood Tavern at The Avenue Shopping Plaza on 2nd Road. The premises had previously been occupied by a branch of Au Bon Pain. Firepork had only been open a few days when I ate there last week. It's specialized in grilled pork, namely samgyupsal gui (grilled pork belly), a very popular dish in Korea. If you don't like or can't eat pork belly, there's no point in going to Firepork as there isn't much else on the menu. As soon as I stepped in, before I even sat down, the attractive hostess showed me the menu and explained it was limited because Firepork was still in its early days. I could choose between grilled pork belly or grilled pork neck as main dishes along with some appetizers and sides, maybe ten dishes in all. That was it. She said they would be adding more dishes in time. I like grilled pork belly and hadn't eaten any for a very long time, so Firepork's limited menu was no problem for me. I chose the full version, which included vegetables, dipping sauces, etc., for 395 baht. My can of Coke Zero was 40 baht. The restaurant itself has been done up very nicely. It's spacious and well-lit, two important factors in my eyes. It looked to me as if quality furnishings and fittings had been used, not stuff from IKEA or Home Depot. The reason new restaurants. hotels, rental condos, bars, etc., start looking so shabby so fast is that hospitality-grade furnishings and equipment which can stand up to harsh treatment, haven't been used The staff was very friendly and welcoming. I was their ONLY customer the entire time I was there between 10 and 11 pm. I have a feeling that unless Firepork can attract South Korean tourists in Pattaya, it is really going to struggle for customers. It's too specialized to attract a broad customer base. Not many farang want to eat a full meal consisting of pork belly. More mainstream Korean dishes like bulgogi or bibimbap need to be added to the menu. You certainly won't lack for choice from their bar. But how do they reach the top-shelf booze? Here's how it works at Firepork. Each table has an electric stone grill. As accompaniments to the grilled pork belly, diners get vegetables (mushrooms, onion. asparagus); dipping sauces and condiments; a bowl of kimchi; Asian-style "salad;" and a plate of lettuce leaves to use as wrappers for the dressed-up pork belly. The second part of the review is on the way.
  9. Under 300 Baht ... And Good!

    M If you are tired of Christmas food, you still have a few days left to get a nice chili cheeseburger as GASCO's December special. It costs 245 baht. Chili cheese dogs, chili fries and bowls of chili are also specials. It's a great-tasting burger with a good chili topping. I've yet to have a burger or sandwich I didn't like at GASCO. That's why it distressed me to see this notice on their Web site: I sure hope GASCO will continue to serve up its U.S.-style food. It is a welcome addition to the food scene in central Pattaya. Evil
  10. Christmas Dinner Options 2017

    I don't have a pic, but the Golden Ferret in New Plaza (near 2nd and Soi 8) is offering a three-course dinner with mints and coffee for 695 baht. It can also be ordered by the course. Here's the menu: CHRISTMAS DAY DINNER Served 1 p.m - 8 p.m Homemade Minestroni Soup or Prawn Cocktail 100 baht Roast Turkey, Cranberry Sauce, Sage & Onion Stuffing, Chipolata, Brussel Sprouts, Buttered Carrots, Roast & Creamed Potatoes 495 baht Christmas Pudding with Brandy Sauce or Fresh Fruit Salad & Cream 150 baht Coffee & Mints 4 50 baht Full Menu 695 baht The Golden Ferret gets some positive reviews, but I've been disappointed the few times I've eaten there. Santa Penevil
  11. Christmas Dinner Options 2017

    A few more options at the budget end of the Christmas dinner scale: The Yiam 3 at Sutus Court on Soi Bukhao: Under point 3, it should read, "Roast turkey served with roast potatoes and vegetables." Next door to Sutus Court on Soi Bukhao at the Queen's Arms (formerly The Coins), a three-course Christmas dinner with turkey and Christmas pudding costs 750 baht. At the Devonshire on Soi Lengkee, a three-course ditto-above is 769 baht, but you can order it by the course (150 for starter, 499 for main, 120 for dessert). Sorry, I don't have pics of the menus. This is anecdotal and take it with as many grains of salt as you like, but I've heard most Pattaya restaurants still have seats available for Christmas dinner. Bookings are said to be off from previous years; only a few restaurants are booked out. Whether this is due to fewer tourists this year or prices for Christmas dinner passing the threshold of pain is impossible to say. The cheapest I've seen so far for a decent Christmas meal is Coop's all-you-can-eat buffet at the Chik-n-Coop Bar (details in a previous post). However, be aware it's U.S. style and there's no Christmas pudding if that matters to you. But for turkey with all the U.S. trimmings, it can't be beat. Santa Penevil
  12. Christmas Dinner Options 2017

    One more option at the Centara Azure Hotel on Soi 15 between The Avenue and Soi Bukhao: I don't have any info on Christmas dinner yet, but the Butcher's Arms on Soi Bukhao is now open again after renovation and has offered a traditional Christmas dinner in the past. As said, Jolly's Restaurant and the Piss Stop Bar are closed and won't be reopening for Christmas. Santa Penevil
  13. Christmas Dinner Options 2017

    'Tis the season to be jolly- but not at Jolly's. I read a post on another board from a reliable source that it has been closed for good after a police raid Saturday night. Sorry to see such a venerable restaurant finish, but the food there had been sliding for awhile. The last meal I had there was disappointing to say the least. Santa Penevil
  14. Christmas Dinner Options 2017

    This one isn't a Christmas dinner per se, but it's holiday related and carries a great price: Aroi on the Darkside could be a good option for those who don't want a traditional U.K. or U.S. Christmas dinner two days in a row: On the Darkside yet again for Christmas dinner. but in the traditional style: Santa Penevil
  15. Christmas Dinner Options 2017

    The Robin Hood Tavern on 2nd Road (The Avenue shopping Plaza): Santa Penevil