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izifaddag

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Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear.

I see the fight taking place between the owners of these 2 forums and I wonder. I have stated why I left and how annoyed I was. Generally speaking though I am over it. I am willing to try again although I am not sure that this is going anywhere. 

So what is the point of this entry to my blog? 

Just some suggestions. I had some before but they were ignored in much the same manner that Mulphy seems to be being treated now. So I would like to give my view. Now please remember that I walked 2 years ago so I am not up to speed on all the infighting that has taken place.

I suggest a different approach. Firstly the donation idea seems to have worked so that eliminates a big problem. When I am convinced that I want to stay I will throw $100 in but not until. So what is the problem? It is simple really. Not enough members. You can hear the crickets in here. 

I do not think it matters that Lanzalad has split the membership and started a new forum. It is irrelevant. It is probably a good thing in its own way. I think that belonging to 2 forums is a bit silly but that is for each individual to decide. You see at the end of the day the market will decide. Yes the market. If you have something that people want to join, something attractive and interesting people will come. If on the other hand constant fighting is taking place and physical threats talked about even if it is not aimed at the visitor what kind of impression do you think that conveys? 

How does that encourage growth and input? It doesn't. Threatening to 'level' people is a bit like that old thing in sales where you never criticize your competitor. It leaves a bad taste. 

I think this all needs to be looked at from another perspective. What is done is done but a certain amount of loyalty is needed. Or maybe at least honest neutrality. If you have taken the trouble to be a member of Pattaya Live and made a donation maybe two then how about digging in? Make the forum grow and prosper by contributing. Evil Penevil was great at reviewing restaurants. Why has that stopped? Where is he? Why isn't he running a blog strictly for restaurant reviews? Has he left PL for the new forum? Well ok then maybe somebody else who lives in Pattaya or who is a steady visitor can substitute. 

When I was here before it would sicken me to keep seeing people here constantly say that we needed more content we needed more content. Especially annoying because I was the only one providing any content. Yes ME with Snapshot. Best example I can give is He Who Shall Not Be Named. He would seriously talk about adding content and yet with a job in quasi showbiz he did absolutely nothing except come onto the forum and be a smart mouth. Clever!! NOT. 

The tools and talent were there but nothing was done. The few core members that are left seem to be much more interested in fighting the other forum instead of ignoring that distraction and instead doing something to add spice to THIS forum. Yes I mean YOU the guy who is reading this right now.  

Snapshot is a little magazine blog with a couple of specialties inside a larger forum. I did and I will keep it up with pieces and pictures and (I hope) interesting commentary. Why can't YOU do that too? Not enough time? Who cares, if you put something in there once a month and enough people run enough specialty blogs and threads then that in conjunction with the regular forum will provide interest to ALL visitors. In other words I suppose you get out what you care to put in. 

Why did you make a donation????????? Why contribute to keep Pattaya Live afloat???????? If you don't care about the survival of this forum why did you bother?????

The trouble is that all of you wait for somebody else to amuse you. Problem is that this is an online community of sorts and the idea is that you put in not just take out. There are dozens of things that can be championed all you have to do is pick a subject and make it your own. How hard is that? You have seen me do it for many years. So you aren't Ernest Hemingway so what. Do your best and use your intellect to make something from nothing. 

If you do this then the forum will generate interest and new members. If you do not it will slowly die further until you will be left swinging handbags at each other as you slither off the deck of the sinking Titanic. 

Another idea that I had was a repository for a book and movie of the month. Downloadable to paying members of Pattaya Live. Password changing every month with a new movie and audio book every month with reviews and synopsis. 

Fighting and arguing is not the answer. Healthy competition is. I am here right now, I write. I would like to stay. Make me stay. Support this forum selflessly give and it will survive and I do not mean money. Put in don't just one liner it and expect somebody else to do the heavy lifting.

Here are some subjects that could be championed. Tommy Robinson. News on the muslim horde. Restaurants. Movies and books. Hotel reviews. A charity support thread. The list is endless. Pick something do your bit and maybe just maybe this place will survive. Otherwise forget it.

Now I will shut up.          

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Just now, izifaddag said:

NO not old fashioned. Sporting mans bollocks that is all. Respect sir. All can do is make sure this little one is ok. So I do. 

You then in my eyes sir are a great father  ;) xxx

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7 minutes ago, izifaddag said:

I have had about 3 or so ask me if I might be interested. Maybe more. Nothing serious just people chatting with me. Not trying to win me for Christ or anything. Casual. I have said no because of what I wrote. 

Look Joe, I am 63 I am a bit too old for Pattaya games anymore. I had my fun in my fifties. I can't deal with the Thai family thing anymore so I am stuck. Basically what I am saying is Thailand is over for me. Maybe one more trip but that will be a lazy one. So for me to post on a Pattaya forum is a bit rich don't you think?

Having said that I have been around here a long time and I know a lot of people. I am familiar with the touchstones. So it is sort of acceptable and people are kind enough to not take the piss which they would be well within their rights to do.  So it is Pattaya Live if it is to be a forum at all. I don't like some of those people on this other forum.  They can do the other thing as far as I am concerned. 

I got 5 cards less than 21 I'll stick. 

A person does not have to be a Pattaya visitor to post , your blog was always great and seeing it revived is good to see , you know many lads her a lot of BMs here dislike the Muslim take over etc .. so to coin a phrase you are amongst friends ..

3 asking you to join , sad eh a concerted attempt to take from here..

Parasites ..

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Just now, Parky said:

A person does not have to be a Pattaya visitor to post , your blog was always great and seeing it revived is good to see , you know many lads her a lot of BMs here dislike the Muslim take over etc .. so to coin a phrase you are amongst friends ..

Bang on 

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23 minutes ago, Cat Crumpet said:

Izi i think you are a decent geezer - i am english right to the root - we need you to grow a massive pair geezer  ;)  

Well they are fairly big right now. In fact I am resting the keyboard on one of them. Are we talking South Park cancer pair or just larger? 

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Not south park bollox geezer - good friends here mate :laugh:

Keep me posted mate - i have a few quid and can change situations  ok xxx

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3 minutes ago, Cat Crumpet said:

Not south park bollox geezer - good friends here mate :laugh:

Keep me posted mate - i have a few quid and can change situations  ok xxx

Thank Christ for that -  they were sticking them in the microwave to get cancer so they could get medical marijuana. Wait a minute let me think about that.  

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14 minutes ago, Parky said:

A person does not have to be a Pattaya visitor to post , your blog was always great and seeing it revived is good to see , you know many lads her a lot of BMs here dislike the Muslim take over etc .. so to coin a phrase you are amongst friends ..

3 asking you to join , sad eh a concerted attempt to take from here..

Parasites ..

 

12 minutes ago, Cat Crumpet said:

Bang on 

Thanks. I am a naive type always was with these forum politics. I will play the hand I have. Lots of subjects to cover in Snapshot, photos, 'bits' and more. 

I have no intention of even visiting that other place. Never did have. I am with Tony on Gab slagging muslims. I regularly get slung off Facebook for being a troublemaker. I'm on  a ban right now. Kinda started Snapshot on Tumblr that wasn't going anywhere. The truckers can be as dense as a dockers sandwich. So here I am. 

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4 minutes ago, izifaddag said:

Thank Christ for that -  they were sticking them in the microwave to get cancer so they could get medical marijuana. Wait a minute let me think about that.  

I was going to send a post to you saying its different here now ......

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Forgot to mention I fight muslim lovers and left wing fairies on YouTube DAILY. I will fight them on the beaches etc etc. 

I think of that old Spike Milligan sketch with the pakistani dalek - put them in the curry.

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1 hour ago, izifaddag said:

Forgot to mention I fight muslim lovers and left wing fairies on YouTube DAILY. I will fight them on the beaches etc etc. 

I think of that old Spike Milligan sketch with the pakistani dalek - put them in the curry.

The left wing fairies and Muslim apologists will be proved so wrong as time passes , Sweden has appalling problems ... one only has to look at the percentage Muslims in UK and the power they have .... how can they make councils , police , probation teams  ignore grooingnand rape gangs ?

The reason is the liberals and their idiotic ideals are in control of these organisations ... to speak out would see a person , hounded and sacked one way of another ...

Tommy Robinson is a prime example, don’t shoot the messenger ... but history has shown they do shoot the messenger ....

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7 hours ago, izifaddag said:

Thank you for that great response. I really enjoy smart responses.  

I agree with all you have said. I do not have knowledge of the Pattaya forums of late and of course know nothing of your traffic stats that only you can see. So I cannot comment. All I know is what I see. Today I have seen more life here than in the last week. Maybe because it is Sunday I don't know. 

The number of active posters is less than I have ever seen before and I have a suspicion that it is because many have moved to the new forum. However it was quiet before I left. At that time the things I said in the OP applied and from what I have seen lately still do only more so. Once there were several thousand members of PL now only a few and of that few a fraction post. Then of that few actual ongoing efforts are none.

My blog entry was not aimed specifically at you. Partially yes but not exclusively. The original intent of this forum was to drive foot traffic to the Rockhouse and why not. You stumped up the money so you should see some return. It went sideways though. Money caused it. Now that problem is largely solved by a core loyal (I think) group. Do you not agree that it would be best to avoid conflict with another forum and strengthen this one working with what we have?  Should I not encourage this hairy mob to take a hand in not just survival of their community but to make it hum?  

Go visit Costa Rica Ticas they got a thing going on. Been going for years. Quite a forum. Addicts is so polluted with advertising it is unusable. Chat closed years ago. Never been a fan of Secrets or teak door. I think Thai Visa is weird. 

So there is this little place. And why not? I just think it could be more. I know about Saints and it is great what you all did. I stick by what I have said. Clearly you cannot force anybody to do anything but encouragement never hurt anything. 

Personally I have been asked to visit the other forum and I have politely said I am not interested. This is where I shall stay. If I am going to be on a forum then it will be this one - far too much water and beer under the bridge to change now. Why go elsewhere? 

I am going to occasionally push a little though Alex. Meanwhile I will keep my end of this social bargain. Snapshot is back and I will attempt to make it as interesting as I can.    

im not the one seeking conflict steve .

im willing to face the conflict though , as always .

as ive said lanzalad could stop this in seconds if he wanted to .

all he has to do is do the right thing and the right thing is to tell his co admin that its out of order fucking me about for no reason . reinstate me and then judge me on my posts there if any .

anything else is just fuelling the fire .

you are among friends here steve , you should never have left in the first place in my opinion .

but it is what it is .

keep your blog coming .

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4 hours ago, Parky said:

You highlight the problem, how many members here have not been asked to join ? I have , a few people there want to destroy live simple as that , indeed that objective has been the aim for a few for years , seen by input in other media platforms over a few years.

Actively canvassing members from here is pathetic IMHO 

our pm function has a large number of pms asking members here to join the other forum .

i ll hasten to add non of them sent by lanzalad from his account .

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20 hours ago, izifaddag said:

I don't know if that was directed at me but I will assume it was as it is a blog entry. A little bit of that I didn't quite understand but no matter. Yes you are right about the splitting of post counts but so what? Rob do you not think that a fewer number of posts that are  longer and more thought through might be better?

Here is how I see this. Imagine you visit a fete. As you walk by the various stalls you look at various things. Some interest you others don't. All is amateur. You engage folk in chat and you speak of cabbages and kings. You enjoy your day and know you will definitely go back. You got a free lottery draw ticket and didn't mind that voluntary entry fee. 

That is how I see this. Mulphy always saw this as an online community not just an ad for his bar and I agree. So what I am saying is let's do that. I would like to see Lanzalad's blog removed. It was never used I see.  Then maybe if Robert is still around he would start a restaurant blog.  Each entry a new restaurant and they can be updated as time goes by. Only one example.       

I don’t really like long posts, I like relatively short witty, informative ones. That said, I understand some people like to write lengthy ones and I tend to try and support them too, pm2ks one yesterday for example. And I like to see posts develop legs and grow a bit of momentum, I quite like thread f**ks too and of course I like to see lots of responses

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14 hours ago, mulphy said:

our pm function has a large number of pms asking members here to join the other forum .

i ll hasten to add non of them sent by lanzalad from his account .

Appalling... talk about low grade

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On 10/7/2018 at 10:21 PM, Parky said:

The left wing fairies and Muslim apologists will be proved so wrong as time passes , Sweden has appalling problems ... one only has to look at the percentage Muslims in UK and the power they have .... how can they make councils , police , probation teams  ignore grooingnand rape gangs ?

The reason is the liberals and their idiotic ideals are in control of these organisations ... to speak out would see a person , hounded and sacked one way of another ...

Tommy Robinson is a prime example, don’t shoot the messenger ... but history has shown they do shoot the messenger ....

When the muslims take over and they are going to take over the left PC douchebags, the perverts and appeasing politicians are going to be the first ones the bearded ***** execute.

The biggest jaw dropper are the poofs and dykes. Frankly I didn't know that we had so many twisted people amongst us. When the islamic rats take complete control these dimwits are going to be executed out of hand. Islam isn't a great believer in 'diversity'. Only in using it to get their own way. 

The only thing that can save ALL of us and I include America is serious ethnic cleansing. If not they will continue to take power one way or another as they have done in Sweden. I think a Hitler solution is the only answer. I include in that anybody who supports them. You can have no sympathy with them. Rational, adult methods don't work. There comes a time with a child whether you like it or not you have to give it a fourpenny one. 

Everywhere these people have gone they cause trouble and split the community. They get expelled from Myanmar the world is aghast. Then the truth comes out. They were a source of trouble forever. They messed with the wrong people. The military government in Myanmar will persuade you using new improved death !! The Balkans the same thing. We were led to believe that there was terrible goings on with the poor muslims. Turns out they were cunts and had been for decades. The population was on a slow simmer then up she goes. These people ask for it.

I have gone off in the wrong place I should address this in a piece but my views are so extreme that I don't think they would be welcome even here.

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