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Keep cleaning cars mate its all you are good for :grins-jump:

I think Tripper does a little bit more than clean cars but even if that is all he does then good luck to him. Work permits for cleaning cars, I may have to apply for one myself.

http://www.pattaya-live.com/index.php?show...c=32954&hl=

As most know me Iam a knockabout lad from Australia with no real qualifications (trade Baker and Screenprinter)

I Live and work here in Thailand on basically the strengths of what I can do with my hands.

I grew up on a farm and from an early aged was a handy f**ker fixing things, forget the baking but my Screenprinting apprenticship involved lots of fabrication, my natural fabrication skills landed me on the Gold coast (Australia) building race cars.

Long story short, I landed here in Thailand to help set up a sister company to that I was working for in OZ, 2 years in that folded and the Thai company kept me on.

Over the past 2 years I have designed and built 2 vehicles (amongt others) A ford Everest and a Land Rover Defender.

I have just finished the last phase of testing in the UK, that was the grenade part, prior to that (July/august) we did the ballistic testing.

I can now step up to the plate and say Iam a qualified Vehicle Armourer as I now have 2 vehicles qualified under the applicable standards.

a milestone for me.

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No you can't.

Philippines, stable Country with a democratically elected Government.

Thailand, on it's 18th Military Coup, Army in charge, God knows what will happen when Elvis leaves the building.

Philippines, walk in 21 day visa and stay for two years. Invest $50,000 and get it back in 6 Months you get a permanent residence, can work and own a Townhouse.

Thailand, very tough visa and work regulations.

Philippines you Marry a Filipino you can own land if She dies..

Thailand, No.

The food in the Philipinnes is great. The new A.C. shopping mall has better grub than ANYWHERE Pattaya has to offer.

No brainer.

Yeah, now if they would learn how to cook. :rolleyes:

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f**k me, not one post thinking its a good investment, well for 2.6million with the views and quality of what its going to be i think its an awsome investment. 40% down over 2 years and 60% on completion i think a tad over 1million aint much of a risk if it going to get finished or not.

The beach is awsome i had never been down there in 11years ive been here and that made it for me its like a quiet little retreat but just minutes from the action,

I laugh when i hear the stories of dont buy property etc what a load of bull, ive got a 9million baht home and for the past 2 years getting 70,000baht/month rent will it last forever i dont know but many people rent here in pattaya it would still easily go for say 40,000 month if i had to. My other house up Khow Noi, 4 million end of street private garden with pool etc paid for and costs me just a few thousand a month to live in.

I guess its all down to what you can afford

When all these condos started springing up 10 years ago we were saying "these builders must be mad, who's going to buy all these condos" and this was when the baht was a much weaker currency. What I've spent on rent since then would have bought me a modest condo by now. But I had no wish to invest then and neither do I now as I wish to avoid any associated worries, stress and headaches.

However for a fellow who looks at staying LT in Pattaya from a financial viewpoint it is better to buy because even if you sell it in 10 years time for the same price you paid your accommodation in Pattaya will have cost you peanuts in comparison to a rented home.

I've seen Pattaya grow from a little beach resort in 1984 to the huge metropolis it has now become and the only thing that could make an investment in property go sour is political upheaval or severe anti Falang legislation.

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No you can't.

Philippines, stable Country with a democratically elected Government.

Thailand, on it's 18th Military Coup, Army in charge, God knows what will happen when Elvis leaves the building.

Philippines, walk in 21 day visa and stay for two years. Invest $50,000 and get it back in 6 Months you get a permanent residence, can work and own a Townhouse.

Thailand, very tough visa and work regulations.

Philippines you Marry a Filipino you can own land if She dies..

Thailand, No.

The food in the Philipinnes is great. The new A.C. shopping mall has better grub than ANYWHERE Pattaya has to offer.

No brainer.

Your either deluded, sarcastic, or used to fast food.

"The food in the Philipinnes is great. The new A.C. shopping mall has better grub than ANYWHERE Pattaya has to offer."

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Your either deluded, sarcastic, or used to fast food.

"The food in the Philipinnes is great. The new A.C. shopping mall has better grub than ANYWHERE Pattaya has to offer."

Ditto that.

Deluded me thinks.

PR is rancid !!!

But the whores speak English so apparently its a great place to live in........... :whistling:

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After 2 houses which i still have i decided to buy myself a condo.

Ive looked all over town and think this is the best place that will be built in pattaya.

Cosy beach i had never been to untill last week but its a very nice beach only a few hundred meters from the site of The Cliff Residence

I managed to get a place on the 24th floor looking over pattaya bay the evening view will be awsome.

I think by the time this 5 star place is up and running in 2 years i would of made atleast 30% gain

Remember its 5mins from walking street on bike, has awsome facilities and tropical gardens its not just a concrete high rise like say VT6

Nova Group has done out 5 star places already around town so i expect a quality finish

I think ive done the right thing this time

http://www.thecliffpattaya.com/thecliffpattaya.html

I doubt that anyone from the UK (because of the exchange rate) will ever make money on a property they buy now unless they buy at cost.

Rob Jones says - in Thailand right now, buy for nestling not investing

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I think Tripper does a little bit more than clean cars but even if that is all he does then good luck to him...etc.
I know some of the guys he works with. He's a pretty high-value asset and apparently will be some sort of team leader or manager before too long. Clever and hard-working guy, if a bit of a twunt on the boards occasionally.

I'd say that the fate of the casino is fluid at the moment, and will depend on who ends up being the new Elvis. Elvis's son is reviled by Elvis's fans, as evidenced by the fact that you rarely see him on TV, but he's in the pocket of the toxic 900lb gorilla. If he becomes the new Elvis you'll see a casino (built with toxic money) within a year. If he lives that long.

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Your either deluded, sarcastic, or used to fast food.

"The food in the Philipinnes is great. The new A.C. shopping mall has better grub than ANYWHERE Pattaya has to offer."

In my opinion it is. There are dozens of quality food outlets selling EVERY kind of meal.

I've NEVER had a decent meal in Pattaya in 12 years and I've tried many different places.

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I know some of the guys he works with. He's a pretty high-value asset and apparently will be some sort of team leader or manager before too long. Clever and hard-working guy, if a bit of a twunt on the boards occasionally.

Shush you, Iam already team leader, I dispense the correct amount of vehicle cleansing compound to the wash buckets, and whats this "bit of a twunt" thing..... looks like I need to try harder to become a proper fully fledge right twunt.

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I know some of the guys he works with. He's a pretty high-value asset and apparently will be some sort of team leader or manager before too long. Clever and hard-working guy, if a bit of a twunt on the boards occasionally.

I'd say that the fate of the casino is fluid at the moment, and will depend on who ends up being the new Elvis. Elvis's son is reviled by Elvis's fans, as evidenced by the fact that you rarely see him on TV, but he's in the pocket of the toxic 900lb gorilla. If he becomes the new Elvis you'll see a casino (built with toxic money) within a year. If he lives that long.

I'd say the fate of the farang is fluid at the moment, could be big changes a coming. Can't see them ever building a Casino, that was part of Thaksins plan and right enough when He's back in Power, it might just happen.

But there's going to be a lot of hurting in Thailand until that moment comes.

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Shush you, Iam already team leader, I dispense the correct amount of vehicle cleansing compound to the wash buckets, and whats this "bit of a twunt" thing..... looks like I need to try harder to become a proper fully fledge right twunt.

:grins-jump:

No, just don't forget to always drink before posting, that should do the trick right there! :grins-jump:

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I agree

Ditto that

Thailand ten plus years ago, was a dream come true for many coming from the States, and Europe..cheap, hot, and business opportunities.

This is still true IMHO but other places have caught up fast..Phillipines just being one example ( food varies wherever you are )

The reason is Thai Baht, instability, Thai economy growing so fast now. Grocery shopping can equate to UK. Street food only thing that is still cheap. Also every Thai, tries to rip you off.

Still good, but not as good as it was.

This is not my experience, but what I have read, and from people who have been here for many years. I have no reason to doubt them.

The future in Thailand looks bright for Russians, Indians, Chinese and Arabs...they are the future visitors with money.

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I'd say the fate of the farang is fluid at the moment, could be big changes a coming. Can't see them ever building a Casino, that was part of Thaksins plan and right enough when He's back in Power, it might just happen.
The fate of the farang in Thailand has always been in flux and is now too. The Thais have a love-hate relationship with us: they love our money but hate us otherwise. I've never known a time when Thailand was particularly friendly toward farangs, although truth be told it's far worse now than when I got here.

The casino won't have to wait for Thaksin to be back in power, although the same conditions that would permit the casino would also permit that possibility; specifically if Elvis Jr. moves up to the top of the ladder. That would create an economic boom here in Pattaya for sure, at least for a few rich Thai families. However, look for the Thais to make sure that farangs can't cash in on it, such as creating new restrictions on owning real estate and businesses, new restrictions on condo ownership or sales conditions (such as a heavy capital gains tax that applies only to farangs), etc.

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I've NEVER had a decent meal in Pattaya in 12 years and I've tried many different places.

I find this statement very difficult to understand mate, just what is your criteria for a decent meal.I have had many tasty, well presented meals in Pattaya.

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Ditto that

Thailand ten plus years ago, was a dream come true for many coming from the States, and Europe..cheap, hot, and business opportunities.

This is still true IMHO but other places have caught up fast..Phillipines just being one example ( food varies wherever you are )

The reason is Thai Baht, instability, Thai economy growing so fast now. Grocery shopping can equate to UK. Street food only thing that is still cheap. Also every Thai, tries to rip you off.

Still good, but not as good as it was.

This is not my experience, but what I have read, and from people who have been here for many years. I have no reason to doubt them.

The future in Thailand looks bright for Russians, Indians, Chinese and Arabs...they are the future visitors with money.

It's expensive now in Thailand, no doubt.

I lived there during the 75 bahts to the pound and these days were good but there's always been a high rip off factor. Thais don't want us but want our money and it's been a balance like that for years.

Uncharted territory coming soon when Elvis leaves the building you will see Thai V Thai with the farang stuck in the middle. Could get messy, very messy.

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The fate of the farang in Thailand has always been in flux and is now too. The Thais have a love-hate relationship with us: they love our money but hate us otherwise. I've never known a time when Thailand was particularly friendly toward farangs, although truth be told it's far worse now than when I got here.

The casino won't have to wait for Thaksin to be back in power, although the same conditions that would permit the casino would also permit that possibility; specifically if Elvis Jr. moves up to the top of the ladder. That would create an economic boom here in Pattaya for sure, at least for a few rich Thai families. However, look for the Thais to make sure that farangs can't cash in on it, such as creating new restrictions on owning real estate and businesses, new restrictions on condo ownership or sales conditions (such as a heavy capital gains tax that applies only to farangs), etc.

Can't argue with any of that. Good insight.

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The fate of the farang in Thailand has always been in flux and is now too. The Thais have a love-hate relationship with us: they love our money but hate us otherwise. I've never known a time when Thailand was particularly friendly toward farangs, although truth be told it's far worse now than when I got here.

The casino won't have to wait for Thaksin to be back in power, although the same conditions that would permit the casino would also permit that possibility; specifically if Elvis Jr. moves up to the top of the ladder. That would create an economic boom here in Pattaya for sure, at least for a few rich Thai families. However, look for the Thais to make sure that farangs can't cash in on it, such as creating new restrictions on owning real estate and businesses, new restrictions on condo ownership or sales conditions (such as a heavy capital gains tax that applies only to farangs), etc.

Yes very true

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Dont think the drilling will b a prob for OP as it sounds like an investment purchase rather than a place to live.

The incompletion scenario is far more worrying, even though it must be said, the Nova Group have a long and decent track record and knowing Ronny, he is too shrewd to run out of finance or fold over

I was warned off Ronny because of past mismanagement when others , not him lost out but in recent years he does seem to manage to come up with his promises.

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Ditto that

Thailand ten plus years ago, was a dream come true for many coming from the States, and Europe..cheap, hot, and business opportunities.

This is still true IMHO but other places have caught up fast..Phillipines just being one example ( food varies wherever you are )

The reason is Thai Baht, instability, Thai economy growing so fast now. Grocery shopping can equate to UK. Street food only thing that is still cheap. Also every Thai, tries to rip you off.

Still good, but not as good as it was.

This is not my experience, but what I have read, and from people who have been here for many years. I have no reason to doubt them.

The future in Thailand looks bright for Russians, Indians, Chinese and Arabs...they are the future visitors with money.

Phillipines are so far behind Thailand its not true, go and see the place. :brickwall:

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I find this statement very difficult to understand mate, just what is your criteria for a decent meal.I have had many tasty, well presented meals in Pattaya.

Its daft, you can get terrific Thai food at simple Ma and Pa shops.

Phillipine food is the worst in the world, do you know a Phillipine restuarant in UK ?

I know one in Earls Court :brickwall: How many Thai reatuarants ,, thousands, Thai food is 100% better then Phillipino, greasy chicekn adobo I was given it raw twice on a recent trip.

:brickwall: :brickwall:

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Nothing like jollibee, i like places that have a security guard with a machine gun in front of the place.

jollibee-burgers.jpg

I said food mate not cancer in a role :brickwall: :brickwall: :brickwall:

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Phillipines are so far behind Thailand its not true, go and see the place. :brickwall:

Catching up quick parky with far better visa, work and living rules. This is the key to the long term ex-pat. Look at the hassles some get on here, trying to get Marriage visas.

All it's going to take is for the Hull consulate to work with the guidelines and stop issuing Non O multi entry visas and half the British ex-pats in Pattaya will need to go Home.

You stay for two years in the Philippines, without the cost or hassle of a visa run.

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Nothing like jollibee, i like places that have a security guard with a machine gun in front of the place.

It's in the open, isn't it?

There's probably more guns in the form of pistols being carried by the Thai boys around Pattaya but concealed.

Is it true in the US you can buy rifle and walk out with it but need to wait for handgun? Why is that? Concealment per chance?

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Phillipines are so far behind Thailand its not true, go and see the place. :brickwall:

But just like Thailand a few years ago, they are catching up. Guy in hotel is leaving Thailand as he reckons Philly is like Thailand was, some years ago. He has been to some of the islands, and says real value in property.

He has spent 20 years in both countries.

Apparently good int food there is available ( including Thai )..not just talking about Angelis.

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Catching up quick parky with far better visa, work and living rules. This is the key to the long term ex-pat. Look at the hassles some get on here, trying to get Marriage visas.

All it's going to take is for the Hull consulate to work with the guidelines and stop issuing Non O multi entry visas and half the British ex-pats in Pattaya will need to go Home.

You stay for two years in the Philippines, without the cost or hassle of a visa run.

lol like I want one of those.. :brickwall:

The Thais have very strict and controlled visa laws, recently they have given free 60 days one , what you are saying could happen but is unlikley,, they like the money mate :grins-jump: :grins-jump:

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