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The Tongue

Air Asia X - Up The Front

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PIC and 2IC issues have been around for a long time and admittedly it has also been a reason for accidents with other Asian nations, Korean cockpit hierarchy being one of them.

We will only know the name, sex and 'possible' nationality/religion of our pilot when he first greets us when the doors are closing or more likely at 30000', by then our fate is already mapped out which in most cases (thankfully) means arriving safely at the destination of our choice.

One of the worst was Air France # 447 - A330 to France - the cockpit was a totall clusterpuck with first one pilot then the other going stick-back - cant even see what the other clown is doing with a sidestick in a Scarebus - when it should have been head down to gain airspeed and recover the stalled aerofoils - jetliners fly like rocks when the pointy-end is not facing exactly forward - it took sheer genius to get to the craft that screwed-up - as ya said - the perfect-storm -

The Thales [France] pitot-tubes - had been faulty for a year and were due to be replaced in France - why did it take a year - with quality Goodrich [uSA] pitot-tubes

The frog BEA - which is joined at the hip to EADS - has not found anyone to blame - what a crock

'' The BEA's final report, released at a news conference on 5 July 2012,[4][5] concluded that the aircraft crashed after temporary inconsistencies between the airspeed measurements – likely due to the aircraft's pitot tubes being obstructed by ice crystals – caused the autopilot to disconnect, after which the crew reacted incorrectly and ultimately led the aircraft to an aerodynamic stall from which they did not recover. ''

Final moments .... The flight data recordings stopped at 02:14:28 UTC, or three hours 45 minutes after takeoff. At that point, the aircraft's ground speed was 107 knots, and it was descending at 10,912 feet per minute (108 knots of vertical speed). Its pitch was 16.2 degrees (nose up), with a roll angle of 5.3 degrees left. During its descent, the aircraft had turned more than 180 degrees to the right to a compass heading of 270 degrees. The aircraft remained stalled during its entire 3 minute 30 second descent from 38,000 feet[28] before it hit the ocean surface at a speed of 152 knots (280 km/h), comprising vertical and horizontal components of 108 and 107 knots respectively. The aircraft broke up on impact; everyone on board died, presumably instantaneously.[29]

Strangely EADS do not teach their pilots how to recover from stalls - Boeing, US Airlines of course do

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In a lighter vein - the NTSB TV interview with the noob after the Asianna wreck in SF was a classic - interview of the year

Captain & Crew .... Sum Ting Wong - Wye Yu Low - Yu Dum Fook - Bang Ding Ow

B777 post-27174-0-56209400-1430929724_thumb.j Asiana wreck - safest aircraft in the sky

Stay safe

Jack

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I have always viewed knowledge as being essential to make informed decisions - its what us honkeys do

If the PIC & 2IC have names like Mohamed & Iqbal, I wouldnt touch them with a bargepole - I consider

Sir Tim Clark [Emirates] to be one of the top operators in the world, slap-bang, in the middle of Islam

His flight deck is only American, Canadian, English, etc .... not muslim-one to be seen anywhere, except

paying passengers - he also saved EADS from bankruptcy by buying the big fat frog flying sausage by the

truck load - the service in Dubai is exemplary - great to stop off, shower, cooked breakfast, couple drinks

It mitigates the extra time on the layover - less jetlag - rule of thumb - 24 hours, door-to-door anyways

EASA warning .... http://www.aviationweek.com/Article.aspx?id=/article-xml/avd_11_05_2013_p03-01-633564.xml

Fly safely

Jack

attachicon.gifetihad 01.jpeg This was hysterical - luckily no deaths/injuries

All interesting stuff Jack and I bow to your level of knowledge regarding pilot qualifications and nationalities.

Amen, Sir Tim - take a bow

Regards

Jack

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/emirates-airline-annual-profit-jumps-40-percent-081154843--finance.html

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I have always viewed knowledge as being essential to make informed decisions - its what us honkeys do

If the PIC & 2IC have names like Mohamed & Iqbal, I wouldnt touch them with a bargepole - I consider

Sir Tim Clark [Emirates] to be one of the top operators in the world, slap-bang, in the middle of Islam

His flight deck is only American, Canadian, English, etc .... not muslim-one to be seen anywhere, except

paying passengers - he also saved EADS from bankruptcy by buying the big fat frog flying sausage by the

truck load - the service in Dubai is exemplary - great to stop off, shower, cooked breakfast, couple drinks

It mitigates the extra time on the layover - less jetlag - rule of thumb - 24 hours, door-to-door anyways

EASA warning .... http://www.aviationweek.com/Article.aspx?id=/article-xml/avd_11_05_2013_p03-01-633564.xml

Fly safely

Jack

attachicon.gifetihad 01.jpeg This was hysterical - luckily no deaths/injuries

Emirates have no Muslim pilots?

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Emirates have no Muslim pilots?

They have quite a few of them now, as well as Etihad too!

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They have quite a few of them now, as well as Etihad too!

That was my thinking, find it hard to believe a Muslim would not be able to be a pilot with an UAE airline.

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